About Quiz #371: 1924/25 Stoewer D10

June 6, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Last week's quiz photo comes from the family album of Hugo Modderman. In the mid thirties his uncle Daan Modderman used to work in the 'horses heaven', the state run stud in Trakehnen, Germany. His brother came over to pick him up, yet as no rental cars were available they bought at little money this eleven year old Stoewer and drove it home to Holland after which the car was sent to the breakers yard... Who would have guessed back then what a unique motorcar got lost. 

Most sources say that there is not one survivor of this type of  sporty Stoewer, but most interesting was the remark by Craig Gillingham that possibly one may still be around in Australia. We would be most happy to learn about that car, as even photos of this car are rare as hen's teeth. Check forum-auto.com

Back to the quiz. Patrick Jacob, Poisson, Graeme Simpson, Craig Giullingham, jurymember Ariejan Bos, Fedor and Till Jauernig were all correct in pointing out Stoewer and most of them were also correct in the exact type. It was however Paul Hoepfl who came in with all the details. "This is a Stoewer D10 built in 1924-25. 100 units were produced. It had a bore of 83mm and a stroke of 120mm giving a capacity of 2597ccm and 60bhp at 3000 rpm. The car had a sporty reputation and of 121 total suriving Stoewer's not one single D10's exist today. The exception in the 4 cylinder D range was the D7 6 cylinder 11L 120 bhp aero engine."

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June 7, 2014, 4:00 pm

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You probably suspect we have gone bonkers disturbing you with a set of post-war beach bum wheels on these solemn pre-war pages (this instead of more appropriate beach bum gear). Of course we have good reason for doing so. For a moment we thought to make this a quiz and let the army of fanatic competitors have pull their last hairs out in despair. We decided that it would be childish so this is only for the fun of it during this (hopefully) sunny pentecost weekend.

Hiding only skindeep under its fifties appearance is a refined cyclecar. Dig that? Nothing, really nothing - except for the right hand drive maybe - is giving away anything of that, yet this doesn't change the story. We eagerly look forward for your un-educated guesses what could be the chassis and engine of this vehicle. The day after tomorrow we'll tell the true history. Have fun!  At your PC, with your Pad or on the beach.

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June 8, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Every year in September since 2004 - this time Sunday 14 - a friendly, almost intimate Concours d'Elegance is taking place in the pleasant gardens of the 'Kasteel Belvédère' near Antwerp. Some 100 truly exceptional motorcars will be displayed and a selection of more mundane but still very attractive classics will be presented before public and jury in true ‘concours’ style. Depicted above last year's winner, the 1924 Aston Martin Sidevalve 'Jarvis'. Among other celebrities also the 1935 Talbot Lago Baby Sport Coach owned by Karl Ludvigsen.

This year's edition is the 10th edition of the Antwerp Concours and we managed to trick out five sets of two tickets for our readers.  What do you have to do to win? Well, just upload one of your own photo(s) of a true concours car in your most personal view (it may be post-war as well) . We will publish all photos, from these  senders we will select the lucky ones.  Five winners will get two tickets for the Antwerp Concours. And hey, wait, don't stay out because you are too far away from Antwerp. We have our ways to reward you when you live in Alaska or New Zealand.

And don't be shy. We're looking for interesting cars, not for prize winning photos. You can upload your photos untill Monday next, June 17.

The weirdest Amilcar ever

June 9, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Yes, the car on the main picture is an Amilcar, we haven't gone mad. Specifically this vehicle was born as a regular 1920s C4, probably wearing a sporting body. Later, in the 1950s it was converted into this nice "Giardinetta", with the particular purpose of being a beach car. And despite its italian appearance, this body was handmade by an amateur body maker called Francisco Ejarque, who owned his own workshop in Barcelona and later produced other very original bodies, always on his daily driver cars. The discovery of this truly unusual Amilcar was made by Spanish automotive Historian Javier Rucabado, in whose blog you can see the other creations of this little workshop.  The rebodied Amilcar received "La Monda" as name, and although being the first creation of Ejarque the outcome seems of a very good overall quality. We suppose that the engine had to be relocated to the front, so the mechanic work should be also hard. Unfortunately the car dissapeared many years ago and this sole photo has been preserved. And yes, probably was one of the very last Amilcar bodied as a "modern" car and not with collector purposes.

(Text by Francisco Carrión)

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June 10, 2014, 4:00 pm

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It is always good to meet people who lead a life driven by a passion and Michael Banfield was just such a man. When he died in 2013 he had accumulated a unique collection which Bonhams are selling at auction on 13th  and 14th June in Staplehurst, Kent. The car I would most like to take home is the 1904 Mors 24/32-HP Roi Des Belges. An imposing 4 cylinder Brighton car that represents the pinnacle of veteran motoring with chain drive, impressive acceleration and enormous Blériot headlamps that look as though they could burn holes through mountains. Seating for six friends promises memorable motoring. Amongst several more veteran cars on offer is a second Roi de Belges option:  a 1906 Minerva 40-HP which has seen service ferrying passengers to tea with the Queen at Windsor Castle.

However, Banfield’s principle interest was early motor transport of even bigger size. If early fire engines take your fancy, then you have a choice ranging from a 1913 Merryweather model to a 1917 Leyland DEU4 example bought from a Peckham scrap dealer for £100. Let’s say it’s ‘ripe for restoration’.  The description of the 1922 Tilling-Stevens TS3A Petrol-Electric bus is an education and the other familiar sight on 1920s roads of London was the 1922 AEC S Type Open Top Double Decker Bus where the driver was paid £4 per week. Read the description to learn how Banfield’s father was caught ‘moonlighting’ from his bus driving job and thus setup Banfield’s Coaches. 1913 Wolseley CR-Type Lorry is believed to be the sole surviving example of a Wolseley commercial chassis and the 1914 ‘Subsidy' Leyland was built specifically to secure the War Office grant of £110 paid annually for keeping them in good mechanical order ready for use when war broke out.  There is also a life time’s collection of books, automobilia, catalogues, petrol globes, signs, lamps and more available,  check  Bonhams' catalogue.

(text Robin Batchelor; photos courtesy Bonhams)

A new generation has taken over...

June 11, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Many years ago Dick Lodge married a Dutch girl. He learned to speak and write Dutch fluently (check under Read More/Lees Meer). Not in last instance because they kept speaking Dutch after moving to the US in 1977. With their luggage also a 15 month old daughter and a 40 year Austin Ten went to the States. The young Lodge family took the Ten for a 7000 mile tent camping trip from New York through North Caroline, Nova Scotia, Michigan and to St Louis. The here still very young daughter happily bathing near the car is now 38 and her husband is enthusiast about recommissioning the old Austin. It moved to their garage already... Dick writes that the car suffered from the Model T that moved in in 1996....

Editor: well Dick, we truly hope to hear from your daughter and her husband about the progress with the car. Maybe her husband wants to send a 'redo' of the above photo. That must produce an interesting shot!

Tie up any loose ends: it's Friday 13

June 12, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Whenever Friday 13th comes around I remember learning childhood superstitions – never walk under a ladder, don’t step on a crack between paving stones – and expect bad luck on Friday 13th. So far I have been lucky and nothing bad has happened on these occasions,  but sometimes people bring about their own bad luck.

My camera’s subject today loves wearing flowing scarves and open air vintage motoring and is fully aware of the famous dancer Isadora Duncan and how she met her end. It was the 14th of September 1927 when Isadora climbed into an Amilcar CGS wrapped in a glorious hand-painted silk scarf and her elegant dress style and joie-de-vivre was to contribute to her demise. The scarf became caught in the wheel’s spokes.

Caroline wants me to tell you the car was stationary in the photograph, so ladies I urge you to live life to the full and express yourself with stylish dress in open top vintage cars but please pay attention to those loose ends.

(Text and photos by Robin Batchelor. FYI, the car she is in is a 1931 Frazer Nash Ulster)

What is it? Quiz #372

June 13, 2014, 4:00 pm

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A small fixed head sports car or should we say 'Faux Cabriolet'? For the insiders naming the marque will be easy, it's the product of some sort of an anglo-french allience, but mind you there's more to it. Not only came the cars of this make with a wide variety of engines. Also the body used to vary in many details. Any car of the make is rare, yet this coupe we have never seen before in 'the flesh'. As this is a brochure photo it is not really possible to pinpoint the exact year or precise engine configuration. But for sure you can give us a rough guess about both isues.  Gambling is allowed! Maube it is nice if you tell us what kind of engine and specs could have been part of the package. Well we leave you with this. Post in your comment at least Marque, Year and Type. Any trivial information not readily available on the web regarding this specific car, its body and engine specs will he valued highly.

 In order to have a good chance of winning the infamous PreWarCar T-shirt, please first read The Rules under 'Read More'. Results will be published next Saturday, June 21.

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Not one single 1924/25 Stoewer D10 survived?

June 14, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Never say never! Despite various remarks that not one single Stoewer D10 survived, here it is. Well here... er.. in Australia where many rare cars survived due to the absence of war and thanks to favourable climate conditions. Sebastien Simon sends these photos as a response to quiz #371 "This is the last known Stoewer D10, seen in Castlemaine, Victoria, last year. All the mechanics have been restored by the long time owner Jim Goble , while the body and interior was left alone and is showing a most fabulous patina. It was interesting to compare that Stoewer to the many early Lancia Lambdas then present for the Australian Lancia Register meeting."  Thank you Simon Sebastine, Craig Gillingham and Graeme Steinfort (VSCC-Victoria) for 'digging up' the car and details.

The GM car you never saw before

June 15, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Check your Georgano for "GM" and you will find nothing about the Detroit car makers or their wide range of products. In stead you will find a few odd lines of information about the short lived (1924-1928)  French make  Gendron et Michelot. The sad surviving 1927 model CG6 depicted here - check this  similar one in better days - found an owner who took up the recommissioning. Hardly any info regarding the marque is available online excpet this nice period show photo  and here where we found that G.M. participated in the 24 hours of Le Mans of 1925. This was however a type GC2. Sender of the photo 'Polo' is looking for engine parts, we can only wish him luck and suggest to try a search advert. With a product of the US based GM he probably would have less of a problem locating stuff.

Finding a Stutz and more in France

June 16, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Maybe Aguttes isn't one of the most well-known French auction houses for automobiles, yet this week they certainly have some very interesting stuff to offer. When looking at auctions in France, you would expect mostly French cars, but we never thought to see this 1926 Stutz Vertical Eight AA Victoria Coupé on offer. Imported from the USA in the 1980s, this Stutz only has a total mileage of some 27.000 miles. Furthermore it has not been restored, except for a new paint job a few years ago. Another non-French rarity is this completely restored 1938 Wanderer W25 K that during its lifetime went from the Chemnitz factory in Germany to Argentina, then to Italy and from there to France. But French cars haven't been forgotten, for example we saw a very nice 1923 Salmson VAL 3 Torpedo and of course several Renault's, a 1914 type EK and a 1924 chauffeur driven type OS. And there's even more to enjoy: among an abundancy of automobilia even a miniature steam locomotive that should prove some fun for the true enthusiast! This auction by Aguttes will be held on June 21st at the Hôtel des ventes de Lyon Brotteaux - in Lyon.

(Photos courtesy Aguttes, text Rutger Booy)
 

Atom - Aston's forgotten saloon

June 17, 2014, 4:00 pm

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For years the Aston Martin Atom's place in history has has been overlooked by enthusiasts who couldn't see past its rather challenging styling. Now, sympathetically restored by its long-term custodian, the fascinating prewar prototype is the subject of critical reappraisal by marque experts who have realised how important it was in the development of the company. Forgetting for a moment the many avant-garde features in its design and construction, this is the car that convinced David Brown to buy the struggling Feltham company in 1946, so impressed was he by the engineering excellence of the car when he drove it. Without Atom, it is doubtful that there would ever have been a DB3S or DB4... After three decades of happy use, owner Tom Rollason has decided to sell the car, which will be auctioned by Bonhams at its Goodwood Festival of Speed sale on 27th June. Peter McFadyen recently had a chance to see the car up-close and tells its unusual story in the latest issue of The Automobile, which is out now.

(Photographs by Peter McFadyen)

MM-mmm another taste of Italy

June 18, 2014, 4:00 pm

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You can either spend the price of a new Fiat Panda on the famous see and be seen rally. Or rally the same region slightly more low profile with the Via Flaminia Pre War. Less glamour for sure, yet possibly more fun. However... a sporty confusion last week in Italy. The numbers one and two of the classification on day 4, van den Bosch (1933 MG L1) and Dioncre (1932 MG J2) do not want to take the lead and show each other the way. Eventually Dioncre wins the Raidillon watch before Peters (1934 Lagonda M45 T7) and Laarman (1911 Knox). Biggest obstacle was a combination of blistering sun, roads of “roman quality” and an overwhelming amount of delicious food. For the fall of 2015 the “Via” will lead us from Ancona to Greece and back. For those who like to see just a tiny bit more than Italy, next fall a Via Hellenique is planned, with lots of Italy and a spoonfull of Greece. Ask organiser Bart Kleyn for more info about his Mm... delicious rallies.  (Pictures Wico Mulder; see his complete photo report)

Pre-war honeymoon in colour

June 19, 2014, 4:00 pm

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In August 1939, newly-married Margaret and Denys Gardiner set out on a 900 mile trip up and down the east coast of England on their honeymoon. They took Mr Gardiner’s cousin Eldred along as photographer and the result is this charming record of tranquil scenes from a country just weeks away from the outbreak of war. Their car is a 1939 Morris 8 Series ll with 918cc side valve engine and 3 speed gear box. It would do 60mph and return 45 miles per gallon but Denys is pictured regularly fetching water to replenish the radiator during this hot summer journey.

These colour slides were only recently discovered by professional photographer Barney Britton whilst clearing out his grandmother’s attic who died aged 100. He is the grandson of our newly-weds. The images were captured on Agfacolor – a relatively new emulsion in 1939 and a novelty in pre-war England. Barney’s mother remembered seeing the colour slidesas a child but had thought they were lost after so many decades and multiple house moves. The Gardiners were a practical couple, spending their nights under canvas and in this picture can be seen their cat ‘Edgar’ which joined them on their honeymoon and only narrowly survived the war after losing one of his nine lives to a stray bomb during the London blitz. Margaret (26) was a trained nurse and spent the war serving in hospitals whilst Denys (23) served in the Home Guard – his tuberculosis preventing him fighting at the front. He lived to age 79 but cousin Eldred was not so lucky and died of tuberculosis the year after this trip. Barney Britton’s website is http://www.dpreview.com/and the slide collection can be found here.

(Text by Robin Batchelor, pictures © Barney Britton)

About Quiz #372: 1928/29 (Vernon) Derby 6cv/9hp Coupe

June 20, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Lots of highly detailed answers came in on Quiz # 372  causing a slight headache with quiz-sender Michael Costigan  and your editor.  One can take two directions looking at the picture. France or England. The car is either a Derby as marketed in France or a Vernon-Derby as sold in the UK. So we would accept both answers as correct. As the picture is from a Vernon-Balls brochure we cannot really pinpoint the exact year, but it could be 1928 or 29 as after that the design of the wheels showing theirbeautiful XL brakedrums was changed to a more conventional hubcap look.

Where many went wrong is with the engine to be expected under the bonnet. For sure no six cylinder Cime, as the six cylinders had a longer chassis and bonnet and a flat radiator (similar differences were seen with Amilcar). The basic engine - at least with the french cars - was a Chapuis Dornier, more sporty Scap or Ruby engines were also available. From the Vernon-Derby catalogue Michael Costigan concludes that the UK cars came as a standard with the Ruby engine. Finally the model/coachwork. With Derby it is described as Cabriolet 3 passager Grand Luxe. With Vernon Derby as Sportsman Coupe.

So the fully correct description is either : 1929 Derby Cabriolet Surbaissée Grand Luxe (with 6cv Chapuis Dornier, or Scap, or Ruby) or 1929 Vernon Derby Sportsman Coupe (with 9HP Ruby engine). Of all Derby/Vernon Derby senders Jorge, Mike Tebbett, Calum Walsh, Poisson were quite good, however in the end we decided Kieran White is best. Congratulations Kieran. We like to thank Mike Costigan for helping sorting out the correct answers. He decided "I think I'll stick to trying to answer quizzes in the future, it's much easier!" Well Mike, next week a new chance. 

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How was your longest day?

June 21, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Hello to our friends Downunder who just had their longest night of the year. Still we are more interested to hear from you what you did on the longest day in terms of automotive occupations.
The stretched Renault tourer - click pic for full length - was shot in 1930, location according to the back of the photo is the tourist village of Barr, Alsace. A day apt like few others to go out and do a nice tourist trip. So we won't keep you too long. Can you ID this four or (eight?) door tourer.  Although the looks are quite similar to Renault we have our doubts.  Maybe you have a few spare minutes today to get us one or two steps further?

(Photo collection PreWarCar)
 

A busy road Mystery (update: Edwardian FIAT Tipo 3Ter ? ) ?)

June 22, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Tony Sloan recently found this photo taken in 1919 in Warrandyte (the suburb of Melbourne ne he lives with a couple of MG PA's). Would love to know the make of the very upright car on the right with the distinctive radiator shell. The radiator looks Bean-like or is it an American car? 

Warrandyte was an intersting community form an automotive perspective. See this 1905 steam bus for instance. And how about this 1915 camping trip.

Rollses and a Duesy toy in Motor City

June 23, 2014, 4:00 pm

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RM Auctions are holding a bumper auction on 26 July in Michigan to celebrate 20 years of collector car auctions in Motor City. There is a large selection of American-built motor cars in addition to several high end Europeans. The 1927 Phantom I Brougham de Ville left Derby in chassis form and was shipped to Parisian coachbuilder Henri Binder, who constructed this exquisite Brougham de Ville body for its new owner Jessie Woolworth to enjoy during her annual visit. The Woolworth inheritance allowed her to own several Rolls-Royce cars – a lady of taste. As I read of the 1929 Rolls-Royce Phantom II Torpedo Tourer by Barker I am reminded of when the late Hon. Patrick Lindsay showed me the photo album of his drive from India to England via the Khyber Pass in his similar Rolls-Royce Phantom ll. In the first 50 years of the 20th century, more than 800 Rolls-Royce cars were exported from England to India thus firmly establishing them as the car of choice for maharajas, the tribal leaders of India during the British Raj with its harsh climate and road conditions.

Rolls-Royce maintained an American factory at Springfield, Massachusetts, from 1919 to 1931, where the Silver Ghost remained in production until 1926. The description of this 1923 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost gives interesting detail from these times, and how it acquired its ‘Oxford 7-seater Touring’ body. More interesting history of Rolls-Royce in America can be found in the description of the 1929 Rolls-Royce Phantom I Ascot Tourer by Merrimac, this being a boom year when 350 R-R cars were sold. 

Yet the car which plucked at my heart strings most was the 1924 Duesenberg Model A Speedster by Brandfon, currently in need of a thorough recommissioning. ‘Benny’ Brandfon once owned and raced the 1913 Peugeot GP so we have the stamp of the right man. In the 1920s the Brickyard beckoned, so using more passion and skill than money,  he built a car to race at Indianapolis and with its 4 litre SOHC engine  did a very competitive 101 mph. He loved his ‘Duesy Special’  and developed it into what we see today refusing to leave it to his son because “this old car keeps me alive.”

RM’s catalogue not only introduces us to some outstanding cars, it also introduces us to some outstanding people who designed, built and drove them and the times they lived in.

(Text Robin Batchelor, photos courtesy RM Auctions)

Fun sprints and an overlooked concours winner at Het Loo

June 24, 2014, 4:00 pm

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The Concours d'Elegance Het Loo at the former royal palace in Apeldoorn, Holland had a good contract with the weather gods. It was a splendid weekend. The only factor causing unexpected clouds was the use of alternative fuels like pipe tobacco (single seater Austin 7 Special 'Bob') and wood gas (the Opel Kapitän in the background). Central event of the Concours are the short track sprints organised by Dutch Vintage Sports Car Club. This year with new regulations that forced competitors to copy their own first time as close as possible. Big fun for public and the 40 vintage car pilots that partipated. A newby at the strip was this  Rolls-Royce Panhard special named 'Monster' (yes also referring to its design) propelled by an aircooled 8 boxer spooned from a french tank. One point, the gearchange didn't have that typical Edwardian clunk, more a Borg-Warner-ish whoosh.
 

Official results of the Concours can be found here (scroll past the first Dutch lines). Best of show in the eyes of the jury was a very nice 1929 Hispano Suiza Cabriolet de Ville. Great car, yet we were utterly surprised not to find  in the listings the car which deserves a pedestal in itself. A fabulous original 1923 Bugatti T23 with boattail body (possibly by Lavocat et Marsaud). An unique car showing its age with pride and still highly usable. To describe its well preserved detailing the word 'lovely' is an understatement. Enjoy the fine inlaywork of the boattail's body top. Check the dashboard. And now let's zoom in on the 'xs' left door, or better let's open it: check that! Isn't that a work of art? An atmosphere absolutely positively impossible to copy by a restorer. It just makes us wonder. Isn't it the task of a concours jury to award the best cars of a bygone era? Or is it their task to judge perfectionist restoration & refrabrication work?

Low budget & High fun at Vintage Revival Zandvoort

June 25, 2014, 4:00 pm

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Pictured here a Dutch registered type 43 Bugatti (driver: van Ramshorst) at Zandvoort in 1949. Current owner Bart 'Ettore' Rosman will compete this very same car at the Zandvoort Revival.  On September 27 and 28, the historic Zandvoort track will once again reverberate to the sound of vintage sports and racing cars. Opened in 1948, pre-war cars were much in evidence in the first years of racing at the seaside track. Check out Rob Bossink’s site for some nice old Zandvoort pics. Now, one of Holland’s best known historic race events, the British Race Festival, has been revived by old hand Henk Janus. Henk was responsible for a number of excellent historic raceweekends in the eighties and nineties, but in recent years he has put his efforts in other events. Now he’s back in Zandvoort and intends to revive the old atmosphere, when historic racing was low budget and high fun.  In the archives we found some pictures of the earliest historic races at Zandvoort in the seventies, with a Delahaye and Bugatti negotiating the old Panorama corner. Pre 1940 cars will form a substantial part of the proceedings of the British Race Festival as the Dutch Vintage & Sports Car Club (DVSCC) will organize the “Vintage Revival Zandvoort”, as part of the program. Pre-war entrants are promised a lot of track time with four 25 minute sessions. Cars will be divided into three separate groups, so sharing cars looks to be a possibility. You are invited to pick up your entry form here at DVSCC. If you prefer a more sedate pace, or just want to show off your pre-war car in the paddock and maybe enter it for the concours, you are also very welcome. Check out British Racefestival for more information. (text & photo collection Jan-Bart Broertjes, colour photo Delahaye & Bugatti Hans Kluck)